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Indefatigable Superhero Onslaught Continues Unabated

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Recently I called Batman Vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice’s poor box office performance ‘bad news for spandex hegemony’.  I’d hoped that this was a watershed moment and a hint of Steven Spielberg’s prediction that the whole thing was going to implode.

But, bad as DC Comic movies (have become), the shit that Marvel is peddling is even worse.  At least with the former the heroes do some frowning now and again.  But my hopes of imminent decline mentioned above were dashed with news that Captain America: Civil War is set to pummel Batman Vs. Superman at the box office.

Jesus, when is it all going to end?

No time soon apparently. We’ve had 16 years spanning three ‘phases’, with more of those to come.  Kevin Feige is already talking directly about Phase 4 and just how different it might be from what we’ve seen so far.

The Marvel Studios president spoke to Entertainment Weekly while promoting Civil War:

I think you look at comics as a guide,” Feige tells EW. Although certain titles may get relaunched or rebooted, the narrative exists on a never-ending continuum. “I think there will be a finality to moments of Phase Three, as well as new beginnings that will mark a different, a very different, a distinctively different chapter in what will someday be a complete first saga made up of three phases,” Feige said.

So does this mean that Marvel is planning another 15 years of movies that feature no villains, with finales featuring pulverized financial districts… and that 80% of the world’s population is going to eat this shit up?  Are we look at the nearside of 2040 before this stuff dies off?

As long as they’re willing to pay, they’re going to take that money.  Be it through gambling machines such as the Avengers online slots games,  or video games your kids are going to demand, for example, two Avengers video games released in mere weeks – no really, ‘Marvel Avengers Academy’, the video game, was released in February then followed by ‘Marvel: Avengers Alliance 2’ on March 31st.  Consumption!  Money! More!

Finally, upcoming super hero movies in total.  How many?  64 of them.  How is this possible?

55 Comments

  1. The Fanboy Perspective

    April 20, 2016 at 1:50 pm

    Marvel Studios exists to only make comic book movies, nothing else, so they’re never going to stop making them. WB is a movie studio that makes all kinds of movies, they could stop making comic book movies tomorrow and it wouldn’t make much of a difference to them. I don’t think they plan on making DC movies indefinitely, not so for Marvel.

    I know you guys took particular delight in the thrashing BvS took by the critics, but this is something that supersedes CBM’s. Action movies have been taking this sort of critical thrashing for decades, just look at London has Fallen, great movie, but the critics destroyed it. My positive review of it was also blocked by google on account of some bullshit copyright infringement, something I have never experienced in over 250 reviews.

    • mark

      April 20, 2016 at 2:06 pm

      Fanboy,
      I have heard that London has fallen is inferior to the first film which itself was only arguably a good but not great action film.
      Criminal recently has been getting BAD reviews and that had a great cast, sounds like another wasted potential R rated film.
      triple 9 was a disappointment.
      Perhaps R rated action films need to improve their quality and raise their game so they make as good films as marvel does.

      • The Fanboy Perspective

        April 20, 2016 at 2:26 pm

        So you haven’t seen London has Fallen? Have you seen Criminal? How about Triple 9? Hollywood seems more devoted to into putting more effort into R rated movies, things will change, they always do. Marvel is the McDonald’s of cinema, don’t hold them up as anything good.

        • mark

          April 20, 2016 at 2:32 pm

          fanboy,
          I haven’t seen any of those films as for various reasons I don’t wish to get into I am not a cinema guy, I am a dvd/Blu-ray or LEGAL download guy. I do have a best friend who is a regular cinema guy and his reviews I totally trust.
          I have heard from several sources that London is inferior to Olympus which I have seen (got on dvd) and that was good not great IMHO.
          Criminal has been getting bad reviews online and even night rider himself didn’t give triple 9 a particularly good review.
          eg Neither are that good.
          Marvel makes decent entertainment, sometimes great and action films of either pg-13 or R rated are hardly art house films or that deep even the great ones.
          Captain America: winter soldier for me is a solid 10, marvel’s best film too date and apparently civil war is as good.
          I do like the rest of their films though and majority of this type of film are superior to most Hollywood R rated action films these days.

          • The Fanboy Perspective

            April 20, 2016 at 2:38 pm

            Sounds to me like you very much like to follow the popular consensus. No wonder you like Marvel. If you’re going to compare Oscar winning masterpieces like Fury Road and The Revenant to Marvel, just stop. You’re embarrassing yourself.

          • mark

            April 20, 2016 at 2:42 pm

            fanboy,
            If I followed the popular consensus I would think the first avengers film is the best marvel film, eg it has the best box office which I don’t.
            I also don’t like Nolan’s batman trilogy overall (though at a push fairly like batman begins despite fight scene direction problems and choreography) much and am certainly not a big fan of the dark knight which is very popular online.
            I found mad max: fury road a once watch on dvd and forget film, highly overrated and would rather watch ANY MCU film to that.
            I like R rated action films but good ones, that wasn’t IMHO.
            The revenant doesn’t interest me much. I might watch it one day.
            So yes I prefer MCU films to both BUT I also prefer aliens, terminator, die hard, total recall (arnie)

          • The Fanboy Perspective

            April 20, 2016 at 2:48 pm

            That’s not what the popular consensus is. So you haven’t even seen The Revenant but you still say that you prefer the MCU movies? You sound like you’re 12 years old, no appreciation for the art of film-making whatsoever.

          • mark

            April 20, 2016 at 2:54 pm

            What is the popular consensus in your opinion?

            As said I simply don’t have that much interest in the revenant so however good it may well be I still wouldn’t like it that much compared to MCU films which I know I do.

            pride and prejudice may well be a GREAT adaptation of the book but I wouldn’t know as I have never seen it and don’t intend to.

            “You sound like you’re 12 years old, no appreciation for the art of film-making whatsoever.”
            So someone doesn’t agree with you and you switch straight to insult mode. You are the one acting like a 12 year old.
            I do like films that aren’t in action genre. I really liked the Shawshank redemption, the awakenings.
            Also more mature crime thrillers like heat, casino or goodfellas.
            Mad max didn’t have a good script and frankly was nothing special at all and even it’s action wasn’t that great IMHO.
            The middle chase scene/bridge battle in captain America: winter soldier destroys anything in that film.
            As said the revenant simply doesn’t interest me much..

          • The Fanboy Perspective

            April 20, 2016 at 3:07 pm

            Everything you’ve been espousing is the popular consensus. ‘The MCU is awesome, everything else sucks, and I don’t even need to see them to say that.’ You mean the scene where a mercenary couldn’t hit Cap with a mini-gun? That’s pure action drivel. Mad Max has never been about the script, but they are tight, and they practically built a sub-genre of its own, but you will never understand the artistry behind such movies because they’re unconventional to you, basically, not the MCU. If you think the MCU movies are the pinnacle of cinema, man, you’ve got problems.

          • mark

            April 20, 2016 at 3:14 pm

            I never said all the MCU is awesome if you actually understood what I wrote.
            I said I prefer it to TWO films you mentioned, one I have seen and the other doesn’t interest much so however good it is to some people won’t be relevant to me.
            For the record I think captain America: winter soldier is awesome and a 10 out of 10 film.
            Btw the mercenary trying to hit cap had those bullets blocked by his shield and previously before that was trying to hit him through a crashed bus.
            Commando (a well regarded film on here) has done far worse than that.
            Also how often can basic enemies in action films shoot that well?
            Mad max: fury road script wasn’t good, terminator has a good chase movie script that film doesn’t.
            I never said MCU is the pinnacle of cinema.
            I will say captain America: winter soldier is for me currently the pinnacle of pg-13 CBMs.

          • mark

            April 20, 2016 at 3:17 pm

            fanboy, for the record…
            Only one film I have seen from the MCU is great, winter soldier, the rest I say are very good, good or fairly good.
            I expect civil war may well join winter soldier on the great list.
            mad max was for me OK at best I was never bored but one watch was MORE than enough.
            Also for a film with such great reviews/online hype where was the box office?
            The revenant simply doesn’t interest me much.

          • The Fanboy Perspective

            April 20, 2016 at 3:35 pm

            It’s hard to understand what you write. I’ve seen better grammar from children. How can you prefer a movie to one you haven’t even seen yet? It’s absurd. The Winter Soldier was such a basic movie you could literally watch it on mute and still follow the story perfectly. A shield will not stop a mini-gun, especially at that range. It simply cannot protect the entire body. Mad Max was a dialogue-lite movie, they have all been, but the skills behind the camera to make it all happen are mind-blowing in ways you wouldn’t understand. Mad Max more than doubled its budget, even after it had to add an extra $50 million to it due to various problems, it won 6 Oscars, was nominated for another 4, plus it’s getting a sequel. Mad Max also made more $$$ than The First Avenger, despite it being an R rated movie. No matter what way you want to try cut it down, Fury Road dominated Cap.

          • mark

            April 20, 2016 at 3:47 pm

            “It’s hard to understand what you write. I’ve seen better grammar from children.”
            This is an online post and you expect perfect grammar?
            You are yet again trying to insult me and then compare me to a child.
            You are the one acting like a child just because you don’t agree with my opinion of two films you obviously like.
            Captain America winter soldier is set in a world where superheroes exist. Cap himself is an enhanced human (extra strength) and his shield is not made out of normal metal it is not unbelievable he can block bullets when those two things are taken into account.
            Perhaps it can’t protect the whole body but neither can a mini-gun hit the entire body at once and it was being fired by a normal human + it isn’t an accurate weapon.
            = totally forgivable in an superhero action film, this isn’t aiming for reality.
            I understood mad max just fine I just didn’t like it that much and as an adult perhaps you can appreciate that not everyone shares your taste.
            What Oscars it got proves nothing at all, they are just someone’s/a few people’s opinion.
            But let’s go with that for a moment.
            Did it get a script nomination, director nomination?
            Where are those if it is so good?

          • mark

            April 20, 2016 at 3:52 pm

            fanboy, doing a second post as first was getting long…

            box office comparison as you brought it up, numbers box office mojo.

            captain America: first avenger

            Domestic: $176,654,505 47.7%+ Foreign: $193,915,269 52.3%= Worldwide: $370,569,774

            vs

            mad max: fury road…

            Domestic: $153,636,354 40.6%+ Foreign: $224,800,000 59.4%= Worldwide: $378,436,354

            So yes it is a slight win for mad max. Did captain America have imax prices to help with it’s box office like mad max did?

            Now vs winter soldier

            Domestic: $259,766,572 36.4%+ Foreign: $454,654,931 63.6%= Worldwide: $714,421,503

            I think that is a bit of a thrashing yes..

          • Jimmy Wilson

            June 1, 2016 at 8:14 pm

            Faggot, go watch a real movie.

          • The Fanboy Perspective

            April 20, 2016 at 4:03 pm

            Not perfect grammar, but coherent sentences at least, yes. Those two points are irrelevant, it’s got nothing to do with his strength or shield, any mercenary worth his salt wouldn’t aim at the shield, they’d shred his legs and turn his body into mince. A mini-gun is an exceedingly accurate weapon. The Oscars are a lot of peoples opinions, people who work in the industry. I told you that Mad Max has never been about the script, it got a directors nomination though, The Revenant beat it out in the category though. Which is fine, both movies were exceptional. Slight win? Fury Road was ressurecting a 30 year old franchise that most people don’t know of today, and it was rated R. Cap was another link in the MCU brand, and even then they weren’t especially confident of it, considering they even called it ‘The First Avenger’. Now you want to compare Fury Road to The Winter Soldier, don’t be daft. That logic has more holes in it than swiss chess and even you know it.

          • mark

            April 20, 2016 at 4:15 pm

            “Not perfect grammar, but coherent sentences at least, yes.”

            You can understand what I am saying so stop your BS about my coherent sentences.

            His shield covers a lot of his body and could just as easily be adjusted to cover his legs if necessary. A mini-gun is not a fast weapon to move/adjust.
            Also cap is an enhanced human with extra speed and his opponent was a normal human.

            Overall though it is an action film and if looking for total realism you would dislike a lot of the genre.

            Fury road actually had major stars in it, eg tom hardy + Charlize theron. It had great reviews/online buzz and imax ticket prices to help. It got a lot of buzz when it’s trailer was released as well.

            The first captain america was an early marvel film before they were that established and like iron man/thor is not that famous a comic book character compared to hulk/spider man/bat man/super man.

            Winter soldier wasn’t guaranteed to make huge money as you admit they weren’t that confident in it BUT it still totally dominated fury road at the box office.

            Also how about deadpool that was R rated and not actually part of the MCU or PG-13.

            It destroyed mad max: fury road at the box office as well.

          • Goro

            April 20, 2016 at 5:49 pm

            You are arguing with a guy who supports political gay agenda. Just FYI

          • mark

            April 21, 2016 at 5:45 pm

            goro just FYI.
            Just because I support gay rights as many straight people do these days as they have gay friends/relations, why does this mean I can’t talk about action films?
            It doesn’t influence my opinion on these films at all.
            I just happen to prefer captain America: winter soldier to mad max: fury road for certain and although I have not seen the revenant I can say I do as the film however good it may well be doesn’t personally interest me that much.
            R rated films I like include – aliens, Robocop (peter weller version NOT the modern one), total recall (arnold), lethal weapon (first/second one again), point break (Keanu reeves version)
            I have watched many more R rated action films as well. Just because I like some PG-13 CBMs a lot doesn’t mean I don’t like R rated action films.

          • Goro

            April 21, 2016 at 6:48 pm

            I still do not understand how man supporting gay mass brainwash can have any understanding in manly movies. As you can see, you have quite different “common sense” from majority of this website’s users. But honestly, I do not want to discuss and question your opinion. You can easily ignore me.

          • mark

            April 21, 2016 at 8:54 pm

            Goro,
            You are the one who decided to point out my attitude to gay people to “the fanboy perspective” when it is 100% not relevant to this conversation.
            I can judge “manly” movies as easily as you can as this has zero relevance to this attitude towards gay people or are you not bright enough to understand that?

          • Goro

            April 21, 2016 at 8:59 pm

            You think it is not relevant but it is. But I really do not think it is worth our time defending our opinions or expectations. We did have long comments thread, I think it’s enough.

          • mark

            April 21, 2016 at 10:45 pm

            It simply is not relevant at all. I have no issue with gay people so that makes me unable to judge a film that has no gay agenda in it whatsoever and this makes sense to you?
            Supporting one thing doesn’t mean that you can’t fairly judge something else especially when it has nothing to do with it.
            Basically your first post was entirely irrelevant to the conversation I was having with fanboy.

        • jim

          April 20, 2016 at 7:28 pm

          I really liked Triple 9.Nothing new but very well done.Can’t understand why it doesn’t get more support.

  2. mark

    April 20, 2016 at 2:03 pm

    It’s simple night rider,

    The Majority of the small amount of regular posters on here might not like PG-13 comic book movies but you DON’T represent the general public who like this type of film.
    Many of the more adult movie fans would like to see R rated action films make a comeback but that doesn’t mean we don’t like to see QUALITY (caps for a reason) Pg-13 comic book films as well.
    Ideally both should get made..
    Batman vs superman was OK at best, a six of out 10 film, a flawed script (badly). The superman vs batman rumble was nothing special, the end fight also hardly the genre’s best. The best action was batman taking out a room full of thugs this is according to a good friend of mine whose reviews I trust.
    Honestly beyond that fight scene he said it was amazing spiderman 2 quality (not good) and inferior he said to ALL MCU films bar none. My lowest score personally for ANY of them is 7.
    I did like man of steel though, that was an 8 despite flaws as did my friend so he didn’t go into this film with negative opinions about it.
    Despite batman vs superman’s problems though it makes box office that the great reviewed mad max can only DREAM of and there lies the problem.
    When an inferior film of this type still makes good money and an apparently great film in R rated genre doesn’t what does that tell studios?
    Then they release films like criminal which from reviews I have seen has a BAD script and I doubt will do much box office wise unless ryan Reynolds deadpool success helps.
    Bringing me to.
    The ONE R rated ray of hope box office wise in recent years which is deadpool but that is also in the comic book genre so may or may not help other R rated action films outside this genre get made.

  3. Barney Ross

    April 20, 2016 at 2:55 pm

    BOYCOTT SUPERHERO TRASH MOVIES, it’s made for little fags and pg13 lovers.

    Captain Faggot : Fag War will suck just like all superhero trash

    Watch Commando or Rambo 2 and watch the hair grow on your chest

    • mark

      April 20, 2016 at 2:59 pm

      barney,
      You want more adult films but act like a 12 year old, how does this help your cause?
      Calling people “faggot” is something teenagers do and judging by how long you have been posting online ( I am assuming you are same barney_ross from expendables boards) then you are not one?
      true adults can watch both Pg-13 CBMs and R rated action films and enjoy both.

  4. AlTeo

    April 20, 2016 at 3:40 pm

    We’d have to check how “John Wick: Chapter 2” and “Mad Max: The Wasteland” will fare in the upcoming battleground, though. John Wick 2 will be released around Valentine’s Day, the same time as the R-rated “Kingsman” and “Deadpool”. Both movies proved very lucrative at the box office to warrant their own franchises – John Wick may have the same luck.

    “Fury Road” had a gross similar to “Batman Begins”, nowhere near a flop, but still pretty lukewarm compared to most blockbusters. However, Batman Begins had a huge positive reception by critics and audiences, enough to hype up “The Dark Knight” to one billion US dollars worldwide and high critical praise throughout, which led to the rise of Nolanism (but that’s another story). Perhaps “The Wasteland” may, too, have been blessed by Fury Road’s universal acclaim, but again, we shall see.

    • mark

      April 20, 2016 at 3:56 pm

      john wick: chapter 2 is a still a fairly cheap film though I assume so doesn’t need huge box office to be successful.
      Kingsman was a genuine success and yet again based on a comic book and not particularly liked on this site overall.
      Also is mad max: wasteland actually happening I thought at moment it isn’t?
      I ain’t personally keeping up with it that much as not a big fan of fury road but I do hope fans get a sequel and it does better if only to help the R rated action film cause.

  5. Jay Beezy

    April 20, 2016 at 5:02 pm

    You may not want to hear this, but the John Wick directors were second unit directors for Civil War.

  6. Mucho Macho

    April 20, 2016 at 6:12 pm

    I thought Ben Affleck kicked ass as Batman.
    & for those who thought “Batman vs. Superman” was too violent, maybe you oughta stick to The Lego Movie…or Marvel movies.

    • mark

      April 21, 2016 at 5:56 pm

      Mucho,
      Batman vs superman is 12a rated uncut in my country UK same as all marvel films.
      In the USA they are all PG-13 so batman vs superman is no stronger overall.
      Basically you are talking shite when you say batman vs superman is stronger than marvel in it’s cinema cut.

      • Mucho Macho

        April 21, 2016 at 9:02 pm

        I aint talking shit kid, respect the Master Troll!
        Yes you can have similar rated movies…but the content, the material , the acting , the tone & action may vary.
        So “Ant- Man” is the same as “The Dark Knight” ?
        Both rated PG-13 in America

        Not every superhero movie or movie should be for kids.
        Thats it.

        • mark

          April 21, 2016 at 10:31 pm

          Mucho,
          let me put this a different way.
          Some films like TDK may have a darker/more serious tone but it is still PG-13 and plenty of kids go to watch it as it has batman/joker in it. Batman vs superman also has kid appeal.
          I would also argue that winter soldier has an equally serious tone to TDK, yes it might have a few more quips but overall hardly a comedy.
          Ant-man yes it has a lighter tone but it isn’t still exclusively a kids film.
          Neither the MCU or DC films are exclusively for children at all.
          I agree there should be more R rated action films but they also need to be GOOD and do well at the box office.
          Only dead pool recently has done a good job at that and is far more profitable due to it’s budget than batman vs superman probably because it is actually good.

          • Mucho Macho

            April 22, 2016 at 12:14 am

            By the way..i have liked some of Marvel films. I just dont think all have been great like so many people claim. ( not necessarily you or other people)
            Iron Man 1 is still my favorite Iron Man film and my favorite RDJ as Stark performance. Plus i love ” Captain America:Winter Soldier”
            Loved Deadpool. Felt it needed a stronger villain but overall it was an entertaining movie.
            But I stand by my love of “Batman vs. Superman” I thought the movie has been unfairly judged. I recognize some flaws, still would’ve love seen Clancy Brown as a badass Lex Luthor instead of what we got..BUT..
            Batfleck kicked ass & it’s a good superhero movie.
            Gonna buy the director’s longer cut for sure

          • mark

            April 22, 2016 at 4:38 pm

            I certainly don’t love all marvel films. In fact so far the only one I’d give a 10 is winter soldier. All the others are 9, 8s or 7s but for me a 7 is still fairly good.
            As I am a dvd/Blu-ray/legal download guy I haven’t seen dead pool yet but friend who has seen it whose reviews I trust said it was worthy of an 8.
            I also give man of steel an 8.
            However he didn’t think much of batman vs superman, not terrible but a 6 out of 10 he said.
            He didn’t think much of either batman vs superman fight or the main “trinity” vs doomsday fight.
            The only quality action scene he said was batman vs some thugs shown in the trailer.
            Neither of us has any DC or Marvel bias and like me he liked man of steel so didn’t go into batman vs superman looking to hate it.

  7. Just Some Polack

    April 20, 2016 at 6:30 pm

    Actually, let Marvel and WB do this comic book shit, they’re only two studios after all. People will finally start to get tired and annoyed with this “universes” nonsense some day. The bigger problem to me is that fucking Disney started to release movies before the summer season. First this Zoo-something shit, now the Jungle book. And it’s bad for brutal R-rated movies, who had better chances while released beyond summer season, because the adults will rather spend money on the movie they can watch with their kids.

    • mark

      April 21, 2016 at 6:06 pm

      polack,
      The problem with R rated action films is quality mostly. Deadpool was R rated it had sexual content, swearing and R rated violence and made plenty of money but it was rather good by all accounts.
      Mad max: fury road was a film of acquired taste which personally I find HIGHLY overrated online and have never talked to anyone in the offline world who liked it that much frankly.
      The revenant also mentioned on here is FAR from a traditional action film this site usually celebrates.
      If R rated films want to make money again they need to be aliens/Robocop (original), total recall (arnie), lethal weapon QUALITY.
      Certainly not bullet to the head, sabotage, the last stand, escape plan quality..

  8. Mucho Macho

    April 20, 2016 at 6:34 pm

    We need more R rated action movies, I just saw “Hardcore Henry” a few days ago..
    But we have a generation of moviegoers that are just too soft when it comes to adult content. Can’t use certain words because they are “offensive” and even a movie like “Batman v Superman” got criticized for being “too violent” cause Batman dropped a few mofos.

    Even geeks were not as soft back in the day as they are today.
    “Man of Steel” for example. Criticized for not only the destruction of metropolis but for Superman killing General Zod. Do these people realized that Superman kills Zod & his henchman in “Superman 2” in 1980?
    and Lois Lane actually killed the female Kryptonian and it was done with heroic music & no one gave a shit.

    I would just like to say to the kids & geeks today:
    “stop being such fucking pussies!”

    • Saverio

      April 21, 2016 at 12:11 am

      love you dude!

    • Barney Ross

      April 21, 2016 at 2:56 pm

      Great post and FUCK PG13

    • mark

      April 21, 2016 at 6:02 pm

      Hardcore henry (even though I will be getting the dvd) is certainly an acquired taste, shooting an action film entirely in first person is a gimmick.
      Man of steel being criticized for superman killing zod in the situation he did was ridiculous frankly, 100% agreed on that.
      He was defending civilians who zod was going to kill with his heat vision. How is that any different from batman killing Harvey dent to save Gordon’s son in TDK?
      Besides zod was superman’s equal and making it even remotely believable he had to kill him after he threatened to basically kill everyone on earth.
      I personally would have had no issue if he just snapped his neck at the end of a fight after what he said even if he wasn’t defending some civilians.
      I don’t think it is them being “pussies” though I think some hardcore comics geeks just don’t like superman killing or batman for that matter.
      Maybe they just don’t like Snyder’s take on superman/batman, personally it is overall my favourite superman film as the older ones IMHO haven’t aged well at all.

      • Mucho Macho

        April 21, 2016 at 8:50 pm

        *”Hardcore Henry” is an acquired taste for sure.
        But the movie had tons of action for 90 minutes and some boobs.
        Movies always get points in my book for that😃
        * If they were real hardcore comicbook fans they would know that in the comics Batman has killed.
        I’m in my 30s & I dont remember 1 single time a kid in the neighborhood or on the playground or in school or at a store, complaining about the death toll in a movie or in a comic. As a matter of fact, the mentality was the more bodies the better!
        that’s why the 80s were awesome.
        btw..yes there were parental groups or religious groups criticizing content of movies, music & television. one of them was Tipper Gore the wife of former vice president Al Gore, who is responsible for CDs coming with this label⤵ https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/69a9cae0379d00cc8dc03f2d65fea37edd942e76059600387bf55b859faa673f.png

        • mark

          April 21, 2016 at 10:40 pm

          No problem with plenty of action but a plot often helps and honestly hardcore henry looks like a once watch.
          It does look interesting though and a first person POV for an entire film will certainly make it different.
          No issue with boobs in an action film but honestly if I want that sort of entertainment then porn/erotic thrillers are better for one handed entertainment.
          Honestly in action films all that sex scenes usually do is slow down the plot. I have no problem with boobs etc if a scene is say set in a strip club or a guy is waking up in bed with a woman etc
          An exception to what I am suggesting about sex scenes can be made for the original terminator where it is not only first time reese has had sex + creation of john connor which is 100% relevant to the plot.

          • Mucho Macho

            April 22, 2016 at 12:06 am

            My granpa once sat me down & spoke the following words:
            “Son..there is always room for boobs & pussy.
            In life, in movies, in general…irrelevant or not… Dont matter.. there’s always room for tits and ass”
            Great lesson in life👍🍺

          • mark

            April 22, 2016 at 4:46 pm

            In theory yes mucho but in practice sex scenes just slow down the plot of an action film mostly. Personally in that type of film I’d rather be watching movie violence/tension/suspense/drama than that.
            As said no issue with strip club based scenes involving nudity or a guy waking up in bed with a woman.
            Perhaps if it is a woman I am particularly into and she hasn’t been naked in a film before.
            But overall prefer my sexual content to be where it belongs mostly porn or a quality erotic thriller.
            OR more preferably in real life because wanking is only so good.
            Putting it bluntly unless you are going to sit and wank at some sexual content what is the point of watching it?

          • Mucho Macho

            April 22, 2016 at 6:45 pm

            I’m a full blooded male…hot female nudity is always required.
            my friend even if you don’t yank it at the moment you store it in your mind for later use wether is an image on a computer, a movie or a girl you’ re watching walking down the street …
            you even store certain past experiences in your mind to help you later on with another. you gotta have a section in your brain like Google for it.
            Store as much of it as you can it will even bring you Joy in bad moments.
            for example lets just say that one time you with a girl and she doesn’t seem that excited… and you remember that time you watched your that hot girl on girl porn and what one did to get the other one really off and you do that.
            Thats one of the benefits of having a porn section in your mind. Thats a guy’s brain
            Dont think of me as your enemy.. think of me as an older sensei.😎👍

          • jim

            April 22, 2016 at 8:44 pm

            HaHa…You are truly wise Sensei..There is much that we can learn from you…. We are your pupils.Teach us.

          • Mucho Macho

            April 22, 2016 at 9:13 pm

            Hahahaha..gotta help the youth out.
            Teach these boys how to become manly men.
            Men are Too afraid to be what makes us men special nowadays.
            So what if we got pussy all the time on the mind..
            Pussy is good. Pussy, beer, sports, cool movies & shows, driving our cars..these kids need to embrace being a man..it can be awesome!🍺💪

            Btw..i have learned much from you as well. Your Foreigner Policies cause of what is happening in Europe are starting to rub off on me.
            I’m not in Europe but because of you and Night Rider I have joined your cause in solidarity

          • mark

            April 23, 2016 at 11:33 am

            mucho,
            I get what you are saying BUT……
            In the modern age of computers/tablets etc why settle for memories when you can have pictures/videos in front of you to watch while having some one handed entertainment?
            Not saying I have never had a wank minus this stimulation but in general these days why not have some visual aids as well?
            As for girl on girl videos providing some instruction value as well as being a lot of fun to watch, yes certainly.
            I can recommend one with Nina Hartley giving some oral sex instruction on another female. It was certainly informative.
            I have certainly seen hotter girl on girl porn than that BUT for instruction value was very good.

  9. Jacob Phillips

    April 20, 2016 at 10:52 pm

    I think the reason it pisses people off is because of the $$$s being wasted on these shit movies. How many films like Bone Tomahawk could we have had for the same price as an Avengers or a Transformers? And yes, far as I’m concerned, Avengers, Transformers, it’s all the same shit.

    • mark

      April 21, 2016 at 5:51 pm

      Jacob,
      Firstly they are only shit in the OPINION of a few posters on this site. I am not saying other people don’t like them I am sure they don’t BUT many more people do.
      The money used being put into those films won’t go to films like bone tomahawk even if they aren’t being made it would go to other PG-13 films.
      As for “it’s all the same shit” argument…
      We are talking about ACTION films here they are hardly that original, they are good guys vs bad guys films at their heart, sometimes with more depth, sometimes not.
      If you want something truly different then honestly you have to go outside the action genre in most cases.

  10. mark

    April 24, 2016 at 3:54 pm

    Here is only REAL hope for R rated action and ironically (considering this topic) is in the comic book genre
    Deadpool
    Production Budget: $58 million
    Domestic: $360,648,943 – 6 times its budget and that is ONLY domestically.
    Foreign: $399,098,006
    = Worldwide: $759,746,949
    Now that is a box office profit and maybe if more R rated action films not in comic book genre could make CLOSE to that kind of money then Hollywood wouldn’t be as reluctant to make them.
    Also this film struggled to get made with an R rating as despite it’s popular genre the producers wanted a PG-13 and it even had it’s budget cut down prior to production because of the R rating.